Friday, June 19, 2015

Highlights from Dutch Lipedema Day Conference – Part 2

By Tatjana van der Krabben

On May 30, 2015 I attended the 5th Dutch Lipedema Day in the lovely southern part of the Netherlands. It’s impossible to cover everything I heard and learned that day. In this blog - part 2 - I will point out some interesting facts and figures I picked up that day.
We had a little bad luck: dr. Rapprich had had to cancel. Although famous for his liposuction treatments, he would have covered something entirely different: AquaCycling. He would have presented the first results of a study to include AquaCycling as part of the therapeutic concept for lipedema. I don’t know whether or not certain modifications were made to accommodate lipedema patients during the study, but this is aqua cycling. To be continued, then?
Ms. Smeets-Taubitz, a homeopath and health therapist (for lack of a better translation for ‘Heilpraktikerin’) delivered a very interesting lecture about infrared therapy. In this concept not to be mistaken for infrared sauna. Using specifically the infrared cabins of Physiotherm, lipedema patients were only exposed to temperatures between 27-37˚C (80.6-98.6˚F), therefore no higher than body temperature.

The warmth was directed at the back, to be absorbed by the bloodstream and to affect the lymph. The bloodstream is to spread the warmth over the entire body. It is to effect improved circulation, have a favorable effect on the organs, muscles, connective tissue and skin, potentially reduce pain, improve metabolism and have a favorable effect on the immune system. Afterwards either increased sweating or more frequent urination is reported, as well as weight loss by some over the course of 5 weeks.
Interesting detail was that Ms. Smeets-Taubitz referred to women sweating who were ‘normally practically unable to work up a sweat’. She had observed this more often in lipedema patients and this is something many of us have mentioned on forum, too.

Ms. Smeets-Taubitz may have only worked with a small group, but this has been applied as a therapy for lipedema patients in two German clinics already for some time.

Drs. Schift, cosmetic surgeon, went over the history of liposuction.
In 1974 Georgio Fischer started with fat removal in Italy.
In 1980 Yves Gerard Illouz and Pierre Fournier continued with fat removal in France, which drs. Schift described as still a bloody affair.

In 1987 dr. Jeffrey Klein, a dermatologist from the USA invented tumescent local anesthesia. This was a genuine breakthrough, reducing risks greatly. Dr. Klein’s Tumescent technique is still perceived as a handbook on the subject. Today’s irony being that American doctors now travel to Germany to learn the ropes.
In 1990 dr. Gerhard Sattler introduced tumescent liposuction in Germany. He perfected the technique and worked towards the extraction of larger amounts of fat. Along the way the cannulas have gotten significantly smaller as well.

With tumescent liposuction a fluid is being injected first. Tumescent fluid contains physiologic saline, lidocaine, adrenalin and bicarbonate.
The adrenalin helps the blood vessels contract to avoid a lot of blood loss. The bicarbonate reduces the acidity, making the infusing procedure less painful/stingy. The fat holds the lidocaine, releasing is slowly, which allows for the application of high doses.
However, the body being able to break it down is also very important. This can be hindered by medication like anti-depressants and certain pain killers.
Infusing of this tumescent fluid is not unlimited, but related to body weight: 35-50 mg per kilogram of body weight – if I noted correctly.

Upon infiltration the skin swells and becomes pale, from the contracted blood vessels. Then you need to wait for the anesthetic to take full effect. Drs. Schift described the infiltrated and therefore tense and swollen tissue as more easy to work with, providing clear definition.  
He also tackled the debate among patients on how much was extracted and how come it varies, when they compare their cases. Well, it depends on the person and how much tumescent solution can be used safely for that person. So you honestly can’t compare notes with other patients.

Tumescent liposuction comes in many variations. Initially it was done entirely manually, but this is tiring. Then came: UAL (ultrasound-assisted liposuction), PAL (power-assisted liposuction), WAL (water-assisted liposuction) and LAL (laser-assisted liposuction), not necessarily in that order.
All methods were designed to make the procedure easier, for both the surgeon and the patients and to improve results.
They all have their own quirks. Drs. Schift mentioned the risk of burns with UAL, although it helps loosen the fat, and the difficulty with anesthesia in WAL, the fluid being infused not prior but during the procedure and therefore not being able to put the anesthetic properties to full use and requiring additional anesthesia. Drs. Schift himself favors LAL, which he says is primarily used to burns through the connective tissue and helps the skin contract to avoid pleas and folds in the skin after liposuction.


Drs. Schift also stated that despite large volumes are being extracted, this is, due to the subcutaneous friction, an active procedure for skin, stimulating the skin to retract. Whereas natural weight loss is more passive for the skin and will show sagging skin more readily.

And then…bring on the fireworks! Dr. Cornely, dermatologist and phlebologist, but more so known for his liposuction treatments, covered lipedema in the arms and ‘treated’ us to some graphic, but informational footage.
On forum most object to the claim that lipedema only sometimes occurs in the arms. Dr. Cornely argued 80-90% of the patients he saw have it in the arms as well. Other doctors have come up with percentages of around 30% of the patients, but he disagrees. He said the lower arms are often skipped with liposuction because of the concentration of lymph vessels in the lower arms. He, however, didn’t perceive this as a reason to not treat the lower arms and showed us footage of him doing so.

He also proposes to change the name of liposuction in lipedema to lymphologic liposculpture to take some distance from esthetic surgery, since liposuction for lipedema is not (necessarily) about esthetics.
Then there was an interesting debate on the long term effects of liposuction. Drs. Schift presented 2 cases with very good long term results, but said it was difficult to follow patients (time, cost, developing an objective standard to compare data), but that it would be useful in order to determine the long term effect. Dr. Cornely, however, spoke of ‘curing’ lipedema through liposuction, which statement was also welcomed by another liposuction doctor present.

Weeeeell, that sparked a lot debate and triggered many critical questions. Mind you – the physiotherapists present were for the better part trained in conservative treatment options. So watching liposuction of arms and fingers (!) in action was way out of the box for many, that, and the cure claim. As for the patients: we all fear false hope, don’t we?
I wouldn’t know about treating the lower arms myself. If that is possible, safely, it would be of use for many, since many do have lipedema in the arms. As for a cure? In case you’re not a regular reader of this blog: we’re open to liposuction as a treatment option (been there, done that, no regrets), but we don’t refer to it as a cure. Sadly, there is no known cure for lipedema at this point.
Those who attended the conference may miss 2 lectures in this overview, or three actually. Busted. One was on food/diet, by someone who admitted she had little or no specific knowledge of lipedema. Although touching upon relevant issues such as the quality of food and looking more so at nutrition and its effect on the body than calories, it was not lipedema-specific. Being flooded with (contradicting) information on this subject as it is, I thought it better to skip coverage on this one.
The other being about skin therapy and Ayurveda, more specifically a combination of endermology, Ayurvedic supplements, breathing techniques and exercise. I’m not saying it does nothing, but it described only one case of a lady who (also) had venous insufficiency and therefore had a strong edema component. The before and after pictures were great – she lost inches - but edema is easier to reduce than pure lipedema. At this point the person presenting the findings could not confirm whether or not it was (mostly) edema management and what did what in the treatment program. So, I’m giving it a mention, but am not getting into the details.

A third lecture not covered here did not address lipedema, but body language and therefore doesn’t fit the scope of this blog. Plus, I played hooky with that one – yes, bad me.

2 comments:

  1. Thank you for transcribing this information for us!

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  2. Thanks Tatjana, that was really interesting.

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